Comments on: The prospects for an International Society for Garden Archaeology https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-prospects-for-an-international-society-for-garden-archaeology/ Gardenvisit.com Thu, 17 Feb 2011 03:46:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.8 By: Christine https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-prospects-for-an-international-society-for-garden-archaeology/#comment-3265 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 03:46:21 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=6485#comment-3265 Yes and no.[ http://www.bigpineapple.com.au/ ] Yes, because both Dunmore and the owners of the Big Pineapple were growing pineapples. Although the Queensland pineapples are grown outdoors.

However, I am guessing this particular pineapple has more to do with the origins of the classic commercial freeway ie, for the big texan steakhouse [ http://www.legendsofamerica.com/photos-texas/BigTexanSign-1205-600.jpg ] sign popularised in ‘Learning from Las Vegas’.

While the size of the Dunmore pineappple can perhaps best be explained by John Murray’s connections with the ‘Old Dominion’?
[ http://www.colonialwilliamsburg.org/visit/christmas/dec_pineapple.cfm ]

]]> By: Tom Turner https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-prospects-for-an-international-society-for-garden-archaeology/#comment-3264 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 07:54:09 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=6485#comment-3264 I don’t think ‘folly’ is a useful word in the discussion of garden buildings: they were made for different reasons at different times. Some had no use; others were designed for specific uses. The Dunmore pineapple was an ornament to a garden wall, and a boast about the use of the garden space. Was the Queensland pineapple built for the same reason?

]]> By: Christine https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-prospects-for-an-international-society-for-garden-archaeology/#comment-3263 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 02:01:54 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=6485#comment-3263 The verdant green romanticizes the ruins of the Roman palace in the way that the placing of ‘follies’ within the landscape added a mythological history to the English landscape. [ http://www.britainexpress.com/History/follies.htm ]

It was after returning from a stint as the Colonial Governor of Virginia that John Murray the Earl of Dunmore added a pineapple-shaped cupola to the upper floor of the summerhouse.
[ http://images-mediawiki-sites.thefullwiki.org/07/3/3/7/6762511503152586.jpg ] I don’t believe it set the precedent for the big pineapple in Queensland. [ http://sites.google.com/site/oldvegiepatch1972/big_pineapple.jpg ]

]]> By: Tom Turner https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-prospects-for-an-international-society-for-garden-archaeology/#comment-3262 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 15:10:12 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=6485#comment-3262 I agree with you, tenfold, and you would be most welcome if you would like to contribute to this blog. I too am a landscape architect.
England is comparatively ‘advanced’ in the care of historic gardens but I find little to admire in what is done – and much to criticise. It is not that I want to be a killjoy critic of well-intentioned schemes. I just feel it necessary to speak plainly in the interests of things being done to a higher standard.

]]> By: Kathryn Gleason https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-prospects-for-an-international-society-for-garden-archaeology/#comment-3261 Sat, 05 Feb 2011 14:38:06 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=6485#comment-3261 Thank you for the input-we welcome all interest and thoughts. I am trained as a landscape architect, though I work primarily in garden archaeology. We need more landscape architects involved. Architects have long been present on archaeological excavations, engineers weigh in on water systems, bridges, dams. We need landscape architects to increase awareness from many angles about the nature of these built environments and how we should interpret and present them. Another good example, beyond those you have mentioned, is Pompeii. Focus on the collapses there is on the conservation of the walls, but if the partially excavated land is not graded to handle the water, it will all run to the foundations and causes these collapses. Our work on the great peristyle garden of the Villa Arianna shows that the Romans had a very refined sense of site engineering. It is our job to make ourselves heard–most do not even know what landscape architecture is, and think that everything was landscaping, putting plants into the natural ground. We are planning three parts of the Society of Garden Archaeology: 1) research; 2) professional; 3)public, not necessarily with those names.

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