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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-definition-of-landscape-urbanism/#comment-2936&quot;&gt;sameer&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for the comment. I was in Kashmir this summer.  There were far more visitors than on my previous visit, six years ago, but I was surprised to see the trees rotting in the water bodies.
See http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/2012/12/29/shalimar-bagh-kashmir-historic-garden-conservation/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-definition-of-landscape-urbanism/#comment-2936">sameer</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for the comment. I was in Kashmir this summer.  There were far more visitors than on my previous visit, six years ago, but I was surprised to see the trees rotting in the water bodies.<br />
See <a href="http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/2012/12/29/shalimar-bagh-kashmir-historic-garden-conservation/" rel="ugc">http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/2012/12/29/shalimar-bagh-kashmir-historic-garden-conservation/</a></p>
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		By: sameer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 15:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Persian or rather the Islamic garden traveled quite a distance, but local sensibilities and the lay of land added features that are maybe even missing in a traditional Iranian garden in its home settings...Here in Kashmir we still retain around 6 Mughal gardens that to a certain degree are based on the traditional concept of &quot;char bagh&quot; but the end results are something quite unique to the land and its climate. Unfortunately these gardens have de-evolved from royal gardens to a character more in keeping with municipal parks!Hope the maidan does not face a similar fate...in any possible re-engagement with the present.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Persian or rather the Islamic garden traveled quite a distance, but local sensibilities and the lay of land added features that are maybe even missing in a traditional Iranian garden in its home settings&#8230;Here in Kashmir we still retain around 6 Mughal gardens that to a certain degree are based on the traditional concept of &#8220;char bagh&#8221; but the end results are something quite unique to the land and its climate. Unfortunately these gardens have de-evolved from royal gardens to a character more in keeping with municipal parks!Hope the maidan does not face a similar fate&#8230;in any possible re-engagement with the present.</p>
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		By: Peter Sheppard		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-definition-of-landscape-urbanism/#comment-2935</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Sheppard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Hossein!
Here are some of my photos from just a few weeks ago:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/peteshep/sets/72157625495320685/

P   :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Hossein!<br />
Here are some of my photos from just a few weeks ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/peteshep/sets/72157625495320685/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.flickr.com/photos/peteshep/sets/72157625495320685/</a></p>
<p>P   🙂</p>
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		By: hossein talakoub		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-definition-of-landscape-urbanism/#comment-2934</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hossein talakoub]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 19:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Esfahan is my favourite city. I was born there and it is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. It has very many famous tourist attractions and  places for public sightseeing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esfahan is my favourite city. I was born there and it is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. It has very many famous tourist attractions and  places for public sightseeing.</p>
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		By: Peter Sheppard		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-definition-of-landscape-urbanism/#comment-2933</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Sheppard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 09:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Christine
In your 5 above you ask about 3D/fly through.
Well, on my last page of old set on flickr I put links to a selection of 360deg and similar interactive views if you scroll down. You want a good broadband connection however.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/peteshep/3866000005/in/set-72157622172791022/

P  :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine<br />
In your 5 above you ask about 3D/fly through.<br />
Well, on my last page of old set on flickr I put links to a selection of 360deg and similar interactive views if you scroll down. You want a good broadband connection however.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/peteshep/3866000005/in/set-72157622172791022/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.flickr.com/photos/peteshep/3866000005/in/set-72157622172791022/</a></p>
<p>P  🙂</p>
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		By: Peter Sheppard		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-definition-of-landscape-urbanism/#comment-2932</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Sheppard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Tom. I sent three photos following the comment. Incidentally, I&#039;ve now looked at other photos taken on the trip and see several showing the pool calmly reflecting, so they already alternate, must have heard my suggestion :-)
The three photos were Ali Qapu with reflection (a Persian tradition) in 1968.
Early breakfast in the Square with water-jets beyond. (Late 2010)
The under-construction link to reconnect the Bazaar.
P  :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom. I sent three photos following the comment. Incidentally, I&#8217;ve now looked at other photos taken on the trip and see several showing the pool calmly reflecting, so they already alternate, must have heard my suggestion 🙂<br />
The three photos were Ali Qapu with reflection (a Persian tradition) in 1968.<br />
Early breakfast in the Square with water-jets beyond. (Late 2010)<br />
The under-construction link to reconnect the Bazaar.<br />
P  🙂</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-definition-of-landscape-urbanism/#comment-2931</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 07:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Peter, thank you for the comment and for the invitation, which I will take up, to use your recent photographs and your information too. You can&#039;t upload pics yourself but I can do it for you. Tom]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, thank you for the comment and for the invitation, which I will take up, to use your recent photographs and your information too. You can&#8217;t upload pics yourself but I can do it for you. Tom</p>
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		By: Peter Sheppard		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-definition-of-landscape-urbanism/#comment-2930</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Sheppard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Further to this (Tom&#039;s) good topic, and Christine&#039;s kind link to my flickr Set (Isfahan 1968) in 7 above:
I&#039;ve just got back (NZ) from a wonderful trip in Iran. And of course Isfahan&#039;s Maidan Square -- now greatest urban picnic ground anywhere. Hundreds of new Iran photos. I&#039;ll get several Sets onto flickr by end of year hopefully. One intended is &quot;Isfahan to Tehran&quot;.
Two quick details meanwhile: My 1968 photo of Ali Qapu portal-palace shows its reflection in the central pool. Today there are the graceful water-jets showing in Tom&#039;s photo above, and several new of mine -- including light-catching just after sunrise. But the attractive water play prevents the reflections. Perhaps they could alternate??
Second detail is the Bazaar connection north. Modern traffic development cut right through the historic link from Safavid Maidan Square to the ancient Friday Mosque Old Town to the north. Criticized for decades. But now to my surprise and delight, I found arched framing under construction to re-form this link with traffic pushed below!
Is there a method to upload photos here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to this (Tom&#8217;s) good topic, and Christine&#8217;s kind link to my flickr Set (Isfahan 1968) in 7 above:<br />
I&#8217;ve just got back (NZ) from a wonderful trip in Iran. And of course Isfahan&#8217;s Maidan Square &#8212; now greatest urban picnic ground anywhere. Hundreds of new Iran photos. I&#8217;ll get several Sets onto flickr by end of year hopefully. One intended is &#8220;Isfahan to Tehran&#8221;.<br />
Two quick details meanwhile: My 1968 photo of Ali Qapu portal-palace shows its reflection in the central pool. Today there are the graceful water-jets showing in Tom&#8217;s photo above, and several new of mine &#8212; including light-catching just after sunrise. But the attractive water play prevents the reflections. Perhaps they could alternate??<br />
Second detail is the Bazaar connection north. Modern traffic development cut right through the historic link from Safavid Maidan Square to the ancient Friday Mosque Old Town to the north. Criticized for decades. But now to my surprise and delight, I found arched framing under construction to re-form this link with traffic pushed below!<br />
Is there a method to upload photos here?</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-definition-of-landscape-urbanism/#comment-2929</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 18:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the links. The Maidan and Chahar Bagh present difficult problems and I agree with principles you suggest, because (1) the past character was of very high quality and unique to Isfahan (2) much information about the old character is available (3) the present character is not too bad but nor is it good enough.
Still, I do not think a full-scale restoration is the best solution. My inclination would be to accept the principles of the old design but to adapt them for the circumstances of the twenty-first century. I think the Charhar Bagh should be pedestrianised and that it should be lined with water channels. So I then wonder if part of it should be as-accurate-as-possible restoration and the majority should be a fresh design using the old principles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the links. The Maidan and Chahar Bagh present difficult problems and I agree with principles you suggest, because (1) the past character was of very high quality and unique to Isfahan (2) much information about the old character is available (3) the present character is not too bad but nor is it good enough.<br />
Still, I do not think a full-scale restoration is the best solution. My inclination would be to accept the principles of the old design but to adapt them for the circumstances of the twenty-first century. I think the Charhar Bagh should be pedestrianised and that it should be lined with water channels. So I then wonder if part of it should be as-accurate-as-possible restoration and the majority should be a fresh design using the old principles.</p>
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		By: Ali Reza Feiznejad		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/the-definition-of-landscape-urbanism/#comment-2928</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ali Reza Feiznejad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 16:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m SO sorry!

1- http://www.pic.iran-forum.ir/images/m3vqzx37wewqx7jxji9.jpg

2- http://www.pic.iran-forum.ir/images/z91nrwk7vu8sxp0onwf.jpg

3- http://www.pic.iran-forum.ir/images/5wse71xsmup9dvq3m1v0.jpg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m SO sorry!</p>
<p>1- <a href="http://www.pic.iran-forum.ir/images/m3vqzx37wewqx7jxji9.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pic.iran-forum.ir/images/m3vqzx37wewqx7jxji9.jpg</a></p>
<p>2- <a href="http://www.pic.iran-forum.ir/images/z91nrwk7vu8sxp0onwf.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pic.iran-forum.ir/images/z91nrwk7vu8sxp0onwf.jpg</a></p>
<p>3- <a href="http://www.pic.iran-forum.ir/images/5wse71xsmup9dvq3m1v0.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pic.iran-forum.ir/images/5wse71xsmup9dvq3m1v0.jpg</a></p>
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