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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/stonehenge-riverside-landscape-project/#comment-796</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 06:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[See Wiki for more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeoastronomy_and_Stonehenge. The conclusion of the Stonehenge Riverside Project was that the primary alignment of Stonehenge was with the winter solstice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See Wiki for more information <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeoastronomy_and_Stonehenge" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeoastronomy_and_Stonehenge</a>. The conclusion of the Stonehenge Riverside Project was that the primary alignment of Stonehenge was with the winter solstice.</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/stonehenge-riverside-landscape-project/#comment-795</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have read that in Israel, the Jewish heritage is protected and valued but other types of heritage (Christian, Muslim, Arab, Palestinian etc) are not valued and not protected. One could say &#039;understandable&#039; but I would also say &#039;very regrettable&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read that in Israel, the Jewish heritage is protected and valued but other types of heritage (Christian, Muslim, Arab, Palestinian etc) are not valued and not protected. One could say &#8216;understandable&#8217; but I would also say &#8216;very regrettable&#8217;.</p>
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		By: christine		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/stonehenge-riverside-landscape-project/#comment-794</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Professor Doug Fisher is his article &#039;Can the Law Protect Landscape Values&#039; [http://www.nzcel-conf.auckland.ac.nz/docs/canthelawprotect.pdf] highlights an aspect of how landscapes [and historic heritage] are valued that is often easily overlooked;

&quot;Place - just like landscape, space and land - means different things to different people in different contexts. Thus space and landscape generate a sense of cultural identity. Much depends on the cultural context of the people involved. Thus, even if there is a growing sense of European culture;

&#039;The reality of Europe has long been of making differences between Europeans on the basis of certain common inheritances that have been given distinctive casts in different places. So, even if a given landscape vista can be thought of as having a certain &#039;Europeanness&#039; to it, compared say to North American or North African vistas, much stronger influences come from national, regional and local contexts in which the particular vistas are embedded.&#039;

There are numerous examples of the diversity of perceptions of landscape depending on the cultural context of the individuals or groups involved....&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Doug Fisher is his article &#8216;Can the Law Protect Landscape Values&#8217; [http://www.nzcel-conf.auckland.ac.nz/docs/canthelawprotect.pdf] highlights an aspect of how landscapes [and historic heritage] are valued that is often easily overlooked;</p>
<p>&#8220;Place &#8211; just like landscape, space and land &#8211; means different things to different people in different contexts. Thus space and landscape generate a sense of cultural identity. Much depends on the cultural context of the people involved. Thus, even if there is a growing sense of European culture;</p>
<p>&#8216;The reality of Europe has long been of making differences between Europeans on the basis of certain common inheritances that have been given distinctive casts in different places. So, even if a given landscape vista can be thought of as having a certain &#8216;Europeanness&#8217; to it, compared say to North American or North African vistas, much stronger influences come from national, regional and local contexts in which the particular vistas are embedded.&#8217;</p>
<p>There are numerous examples of the diversity of perceptions of landscape depending on the cultural context of the individuals or groups involved&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/stonehenge-riverside-landscape-project/#comment-793</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Martina, I guess the big issue in cemetery design is whether Man is part of nature or separate from nature. Our language, which is rooted in two millennia of religious belief, is that we are separate, so that we use the words &#039;nature&#039; and &#039;natural&#039; to mean &#039;not made by man&#039;. This leads us to make graves which are obviously &#039;influenced by man&#039;. It depresses me to see new fields being converted from beautiful farmland to ugly &#039;developments&#039; of ugly lumps of granite with ugly lettering - though they look worse in Russian-influenced countries, embedded with photographs of the deceased.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martina, I guess the big issue in cemetery design is whether Man is part of nature or separate from nature. Our language, which is rooted in two millennia of religious belief, is that we are separate, so that we use the words &#8216;nature&#8217; and &#8216;natural&#8217; to mean &#8216;not made by man&#8217;. This leads us to make graves which are obviously &#8216;influenced by man&#8217;. It depresses me to see new fields being converted from beautiful farmland to ugly &#8216;developments&#8217; of ugly lumps of granite with ugly lettering &#8211; though they look worse in Russian-influenced countries, embedded with photographs of the deceased.</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/stonehenge-riverside-landscape-project/#comment-792</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I prefer the idea of new forests to that of endless avenues, because avenues are so closely associated with power. Societies need power, of course, but I have inherited a streak of anarchism which makes me more aware of the abuse of power than of its uses. Re the Avenues of Honour project, I recommend Kipling: &quot;If any question why we died/ Tell them, because our fathers lied&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer the idea of new forests to that of endless avenues, because avenues are so closely associated with power. Societies need power, of course, but I have inherited a streak of anarchism which makes me more aware of the abuse of power than of its uses. Re the Avenues of Honour project, I recommend Kipling: &#8220;If any question why we died/ Tell them, because our fathers lied&#8221;</p>
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		By: Christine		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/stonehenge-riverside-landscape-project/#comment-791</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 03:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ps. Treenet is an organisation interested in Avenues of Honour, War Memorials and their links to overseas grave sites ie. Gallipoli. [http://www.treenet.com.au/Files/symposia/2004PDFs/04TS%20MEMORIAL%20AVENUES_A%20HISTORICAL%20PERSPECTIVE_JohnDargavel.pdf]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps. Treenet is an organisation interested in Avenues of Honour, War Memorials and their links to overseas grave sites ie. Gallipoli. [http://www.treenet.com.au/Files/symposia/2004PDFs/04TS%20MEMORIAL%20AVENUES_A%20HISTORICAL%20PERSPECTIVE_JohnDargavel.pdf]</p>
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		By: Christine		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/stonehenge-riverside-landscape-project/#comment-790</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 03:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So we would have forests and/or woodlands to honour our dead as well as avenues of honour to honour our fallen?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we would have forests and/or woodlands to honour our dead as well as avenues of honour to honour our fallen?</p>
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		By: Martina		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/stonehenge-riverside-landscape-project/#comment-789</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very intriguing idea - expanding woodland over burial sites. In my country are cemeteries enveloped by Thuja or Chamaecyparis (instead of mythological Cyperuss). I always wanted a tree on very spot of grave or little pond for ashes. Imagine how more diverse would be these places with trees, ponds, shrubs and mounds without &#039;stone beds&#039; getting vandalised. Instead of mourning above expensive cold tombs and artificial flowers, one would look up with excitement how the tree is gradually climbing to the sky and taking sorrow away. I can see families of deceased to compete whose tree is taller and faster growing than others. I should think about this earlier as a topic for my final project;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very intriguing idea &#8211; expanding woodland over burial sites. In my country are cemeteries enveloped by Thuja or Chamaecyparis (instead of mythological Cyperuss). I always wanted a tree on very spot of grave or little pond for ashes. Imagine how more diverse would be these places with trees, ponds, shrubs and mounds without &#8216;stone beds&#8217; getting vandalised. Instead of mourning above expensive cold tombs and artificial flowers, one would look up with excitement how the tree is gradually climbing to the sky and taking sorrow away. I can see families of deceased to compete whose tree is taller and faster growing than others. I should think about this earlier as a topic for my final project;-)</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/stonehenge-riverside-landscape-project/#comment-788</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, and it would be rather nice if &#039;the community&#039; expanded the area of woodland each time someone died.
There is also something attractive about Parker Pearson&#039;s theory that casting the ashes into the river was a community ceremony at the solstice, like a graduation, except that everyone &#039;passes&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and it would be rather nice if &#8216;the community&#8217; expanded the area of woodland each time someone died.<br />
There is also something attractive about Parker Pearson&#8217;s theory that casting the ashes into the river was a community ceremony at the solstice, like a graduation, except that everyone &#8216;passes&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Marian		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/stonehenge-riverside-landscape-project/#comment-787</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am totally with you on the cremation and scattering of ashes Tom.  I personally like the idea of flying to the four winds to help provide a little potash to the odd needy plant.  I don&#039;t want to be remembered as a name on a headstone and I cannot understand the idea of building concrete walls with metal doors and hiding ashes inside in urns to atrophy in the dark .. but for those who do like to be commemorated the Native Woodland movement is a great alternative. There are apparently over 200 natural burial sites now in the UK, see http://www.anbg.org.uk]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am totally with you on the cremation and scattering of ashes Tom.  I personally like the idea of flying to the four winds to help provide a little potash to the odd needy plant.  I don&#8217;t want to be remembered as a name on a headstone and I cannot understand the idea of building concrete walls with metal doors and hiding ashes inside in urns to atrophy in the dark .. but for those who do like to be commemorated the Native Woodland movement is a great alternative. There are apparently over 200 natural burial sites now in the UK, see <a href="http://www.anbg.org.uk" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.anbg.org.uk</a></p>
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