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	Comments on: Sir Geoffrey Jellicoe &#8211; a Blue Plaque for a landscape architecture but not for Susan	</title>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 04:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Geoffrey told us how he saw things on the front cover of the book which made them famous http://www.amazon.co.uk/Landscape-Man-Shaping-Environment-Prehistory/dp/0500278199/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1307766983&amp;sr=1-1. It surprised me when I first saw both their names on the cover, in 1974, but when I met them I understood the reason. In fact Susan made most of the conversation when talking to them both about landscape architecture!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Geoffrey told us how he saw things on the front cover of the book which made them famous <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Landscape-Man-Shaping-Environment-Prehistory/dp/0500278199/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1307766983&#038;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Landscape-Man-Shaping-Environment-Prehistory/dp/0500278199/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1307766983&#038;sr=1-1</a>. It surprised me when I first saw both their names on the cover, in 1974, but when I met them I understood the reason. In fact Susan made most of the conversation when talking to them both about landscape architecture!</p>
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		By: Christine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 04:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps if the plaque read &quot;Sir Geoffrey Jellicoe...lived here with his wife and collaborator, Susan...&quot; it would have covered the bases of contribution and significance?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps if the plaque read &#8220;Sir Geoffrey Jellicoe&#8230;lived here with his wife and collaborator, Susan&#8230;&#8221; it would have covered the bases of contribution and significance?</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Lynda, I had forgotten about Landscape Design. She was the mainstay for many years and the quality was very much higher when she did the work as a volunteer than it has been since the LI started paying for editorial services. As they say, you get more for love than you get for money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Lynda, I had forgotten about Landscape Design. She was the mainstay for many years and the quality was very much higher when she did the work as a volunteer than it has been since the LI started paying for editorial services. As they say, you get more for love than you get for money.</p>
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		By: Tian Yuan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tian Yuan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Admire!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admire!</p>
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		By: Lynda Harris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynda Harris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 14:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Tom &#038; Annabel for your comments.  I personally believe that Susan&#039;s contribution to Landscape Architecture was enormous, not only her imput into the many projects &#038; books she worked on jointly with Geoffrey but also in her work at the Landscape Institute, editing the magazine and her work spreading knowledge about the relatively new profession both at a national and international level. The current Landscape Institute is built on these foundations. She lived at a time when it was far more difficult for women to gain formal recognition for their work through education, membership of professional bodies and formal awards.  I think it is because of this that English Heritage did not properly take into consideration her vital part in their professional partnership.  I am glad that there are still people today who recognise the importance of her contribution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom &amp; Annabel for your comments.  I personally believe that Susan&#8217;s contribution to Landscape Architecture was enormous, not only her imput into the many projects &amp; books she worked on jointly with Geoffrey but also in her work at the Landscape Institute, editing the magazine and her work spreading knowledge about the relatively new profession both at a national and international level. The current Landscape Institute is built on these foundations. She lived at a time when it was far more difficult for women to gain formal recognition for their work through education, membership of professional bodies and formal awards.  I think it is because of this that English Heritage did not properly take into consideration her vital part in their professional partnership.  I am glad that there are still people today who recognise the importance of her contribution.</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Annabel, many thanks for the information, but I think English Heritage were wrong. Do they know more than Geoffrey&#039;s friends and family about this partnership with Susan? No.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annabel, many thanks for the information, but I think English Heritage were wrong. Do they know more than Geoffrey&#8217;s friends and family about this partnership with Susan? No.</p>
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		By: annabel downs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[annabel downs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 09:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Jellicoe is also best know in the UK as one of the founder members of the Institute of Landscape Architects [subsequently renamed Landscape Institute]

The former LI library and Archive supported the application to include Susan Jellicoe and a statement was submitted to support this including Dame Sylvia Crowe PPILA statement that Susan Jellicoe&#039;s photographic library ‘compiled by one who combined insight with technical skill forms a priceless contribution to landscape archives and libraries’, tribute to SJ in 1986.  Including many of the points you raise Tom, our conclusion to EH was that while Geoffrey Jellicoe received international recognition for his work and his contribution to landscape architecture, Susan Jellicoe’s contribution however has long been overshadowed by people other than him.


the response from EH blue plaque coordinator:

The Blue Plaques Panel considered a report on Susan Jellicoe at their February 2008 meeting. The Panel was interested to hear of the achievements of Susan Jellicoe, and supported the principle that, where relevant, plaques should commemorate both husband and wife. However, in order for joint plaques to be awarded, both figures must be shown to be of equal significance; this was the case, for instance, with the Surrealist Roland Penrose and the photographer Lee Miller, and with Leonard and Virginia Woolf. With regard to the Jellicoes, the Panel felt that Sir Geoffrey was undoubtedly the primary force in the partnership, and that this should be reflected in the inscription of the plaque. I am sorry for any disappointment this news may cause.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Jellicoe is also best know in the UK as one of the founder members of the Institute of Landscape Architects [subsequently renamed Landscape Institute]</p>
<p>The former LI library and Archive supported the application to include Susan Jellicoe and a statement was submitted to support this including Dame Sylvia Crowe PPILA statement that Susan Jellicoe&#8217;s photographic library ‘compiled by one who combined insight with technical skill forms a priceless contribution to landscape archives and libraries’, tribute to SJ in 1986.  Including many of the points you raise Tom, our conclusion to EH was that while Geoffrey Jellicoe received international recognition for his work and his contribution to landscape architecture, Susan Jellicoe’s contribution however has long been overshadowed by people other than him.</p>
<p>the response from EH blue plaque coordinator:</p>
<p>The Blue Plaques Panel considered a report on Susan Jellicoe at their February 2008 meeting. The Panel was interested to hear of the achievements of Susan Jellicoe, and supported the principle that, where relevant, plaques should commemorate both husband and wife. However, in order for joint plaques to be awarded, both figures must be shown to be of equal significance; this was the case, for instance, with the Surrealist Roland Penrose and the photographer Lee Miller, and with Leonard and Virginia Woolf. With regard to the Jellicoes, the Panel felt that Sir Geoffrey was undoubtedly the primary force in the partnership, and that this should be reflected in the inscription of the plaque. I am sorry for any disappointment this news may cause.</p>
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