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		By: Christine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2014 05:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[According to some commentators Melbourne&#039;s street art puts in on the tourist map (alongside Berlin, New York, London,Los Angeles and SaoPaulo) enabling it to compete with Sydney and the famous harbour and Opera House. Perhaps you could post the London street art policy so we could compare policies? Perhaps, like Melbourne there are some areas where street art is actively welcomed (Fitzroy, Collingwood, Brunswick and St Kilda) and some areas where it is discouraged?

It has taken the Victorian government some time to come to this policy position and the situation is still evolving on whether to conserve particular pieces. (Ie a Banksey piece was provided with a perspex cover but was vandalised nonetheless). Likewise, preserving the lane way buildings within Melbourne&#039;s CBD from demolition and redevelopment is a challenge. So the issues of heritage and conservation are live in Melbourne too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to some commentators Melbourne&#8217;s street art puts in on the tourist map (alongside Berlin, New York, London,Los Angeles and SaoPaulo) enabling it to compete with Sydney and the famous harbour and Opera House. Perhaps you could post the London street art policy so we could compare policies? Perhaps, like Melbourne there are some areas where street art is actively welcomed (Fitzroy, Collingwood, Brunswick and St Kilda) and some areas where it is discouraged?</p>
<p>It has taken the Victorian government some time to come to this policy position and the situation is still evolving on whether to conserve particular pieces. (Ie a Banksey piece was provided with a perspex cover but was vandalised nonetheless). Likewise, preserving the lane way buildings within Melbourne&#8217;s CBD from demolition and redevelopment is a challenge. So the issues of heritage and conservation are live in Melbourne too.</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/london-can-become-a-roof-garden-city-but-it-needs-imaginative-design-as-well-as-town-planning/#comment-5865&quot;&gt;Christine&lt;/a&gt;.

Melbourne&#039;s policy is terrific. They should offer consultancy to other cities. But I wonder what happens if neighbours object. I can&#039;t imagine my neighbours (or me!) being happy if one household decided to convert its London stock brick to an a Tarzan and Jane mural. In fact they might object if I wanted to paint my house white!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/london-can-become-a-roof-garden-city-but-it-needs-imaginative-design-as-well-as-town-planning/#comment-5865">Christine</a>.</p>
<p>Melbourne&#8217;s policy is terrific. They should offer consultancy to other cities. But I wonder what happens if neighbours object. I can&#8217;t imagine my neighbours (or me!) being happy if one household decided to convert its London stock brick to an a Tarzan and Jane mural. In fact they might object if I wanted to paint my house white!</p>
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		By: Christine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2014 05:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes Melbourne does have an official policy on street art and still frown upon graffiti.[ http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/ForResidents/StreetCleaningandGraffiti/GraffitiStreetArt/Pages/Whatisstreetart.aspx ]

I am still sure that the street art still amazes the viewer and makes people wonder question their consumption patterns as you say!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Melbourne does have an official policy on street art and still frown upon graffiti.[ <a href="http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/ForResidents/StreetCleaningandGraffiti/GraffitiStreetArt/Pages/Whatisstreetart.aspx" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/ForResidents/StreetCleaningandGraffiti/GraffitiStreetArt/Pages/Whatisstreetart.aspx</a> ]</p>
<p>I am still sure that the street art still amazes the viewer and makes people wonder question their consumption patterns as you say!</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 11:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/london-can-become-a-roof-garden-city-but-it-needs-imaginative-design-as-well-as-town-planning/#comment-5863&quot;&gt;Christine&lt;/a&gt;.

Melbourne&#039;s street art is wonderful.
In my lack of knowledge about Australia, I would have guessed it would be classified as an un-Australian activity. Is the artwork done by the owners? or with the permission of the owners? - or is it the kind of thing you discover when you get back from a a few drinks, wondering if someone put something extra in them?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/london-can-become-a-roof-garden-city-but-it-needs-imaginative-design-as-well-as-town-planning/#comment-5863">Christine</a>.</p>
<p>Melbourne&#8217;s street art is wonderful.<br />
In my lack of knowledge about Australia, I would have guessed it would be classified as an un-Australian activity. Is the artwork done by the owners? or with the permission of the owners? &#8211; or is it the kind of thing you discover when you get back from a a few drinks, wondering if someone put something extra in them?</p>
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		By: Christine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 05:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes. Melbourne has turned street art into a virtue in the laneway galleries which are vibrant café and small retail hub. It relies the promotion of small grain development, maintaining the Victorian heritage character and respecting the potential of the Hoddle grid. But the result is magical!

[ http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/02/15/1226271/772887-melbourne-street-art.jpg ] and [ http://melbourneartcritic.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/dsc04780.jpg ] and [ http://melbourneinphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ROA-Street-art-1.jpg ] and [ http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-c92O0Qfw3gM/Tsl4um0k2JI/AAAAAAAAAuw/UWSCQPfEeJY/s1600/StreetArt_melbourne_+Tab.jpg ]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Melbourne has turned street art into a virtue in the laneway galleries which are vibrant café and small retail hub. It relies the promotion of small grain development, maintaining the Victorian heritage character and respecting the potential of the Hoddle grid. But the result is magical!</p>
<p>[ <a href="http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/02/15/1226271/772887-melbourne-street-art.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/02/15/1226271/772887-melbourne-street-art.jpg</a> ] and [ <a href="http://melbourneartcritic.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/dsc04780.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://melbourneartcritic.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/dsc04780.jpg</a> ] and [ <a href="http://melbourneinphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ROA-Street-art-1.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://melbourneinphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ROA-Street-art-1.jpg</a> ] and [ <a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-c92O0Qfw3gM/Tsl4um0k2JI/AAAAAAAAAuw/UWSCQPfEeJY/s1600/StreetArt_melbourne_+Tab.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-c92O0Qfw3gM/Tsl4um0k2JI/AAAAAAAAAuw/UWSCQPfEeJY/s1600/StreetArt_melbourne_+Tab.jpg</a> ]</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 05:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/london-can-become-a-roof-garden-city-but-it-needs-imaginative-design-as-well-as-town-planning/#comment-5861&quot;&gt;Christine&lt;/a&gt;.

I remain a great admirer of the parliamentary roof garden in Canberra - while continuing to regret that it is a dreary lawn. But maybe its justified. It always surprises me that Canberra&#039;s rainfall is similar to London&#039;s. Its average temperatures are about 10C higher. When London is in the 20s everyone lies on the grass, if its sunny. Does this happen on the green roof?
&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sucre+graffiti&amp;safe=off&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;hs=GyD&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;channel=sb&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=isch&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=LQYcU7y-DoSKhQfw4IDAAw&amp;ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&amp;biw=1365&amp;bih=912#channel=sb&amp;q=sucre+wall+painting+grafitti&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;safe=off&amp;tbm=isch&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sucre is said to be a great city for graffiti&lt;/a&gt;. It would be good if cities could find a way of controlling walls where graffiti is welcome/unwelcome. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/london-can-become-a-roof-garden-city-but-it-needs-imaginative-design-as-well-as-town-planning/#comment-5861">Christine</a>.</p>
<p>I remain a great admirer of the parliamentary roof garden in Canberra &#8211; while continuing to regret that it is a dreary lawn. But maybe its justified. It always surprises me that Canberra&#8217;s rainfall is similar to London&#8217;s. Its average temperatures are about 10C higher. When London is in the 20s everyone lies on the grass, if its sunny. Does this happen on the green roof?<br />
<a href="https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=sucre+graffiti&#038;safe=off&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;hs=GyD&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;channel=sb&#038;source=lnms&#038;tbm=isch&#038;sa=X&#038;ei=LQYcU7y-DoSKhQfw4IDAAw&#038;ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&#038;biw=1365&#038;bih=912#channel=sb&#038;q=sucre+wall+painting+grafitti&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;safe=off&#038;tbm=isch" rel="nofollow">Sucre is said to be a great city for graffiti</a>. It would be good if cities could find a way of controlling walls where graffiti is welcome/unwelcome. </p>
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		By: Christine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2014 04:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes. I think Canberra began to lead the way in the garden city roof garden city stakes - [ http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/05/23/1226061/390258-parliament-house.jpg ] but unfortuneately now it seems more afraid of not looking like a city in the conventional sense of a conglomeration of highrises or dense built development.

It would be great to think that landscape architects could develop a more rounded imagination of what the urban realm could look like if it incorporated more than bricks and mortar in an approximation of a concrete jungle!

Otherwise we may have to be satisfied with the return of the mural!
[ http://www.brooklynstreetart.com/theblog/2012/10/14/images-of-the-week-10-14-12/ ]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. I think Canberra began to lead the way in the garden city roof garden city stakes &#8211; [ <a href="http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/05/23/1226061/390258-parliament-house.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/05/23/1226061/390258-parliament-house.jpg</a> ] but unfortuneately now it seems more afraid of not looking like a city in the conventional sense of a conglomeration of highrises or dense built development.</p>
<p>It would be great to think that landscape architects could develop a more rounded imagination of what the urban realm could look like if it incorporated more than bricks and mortar in an approximation of a concrete jungle!</p>
<p>Otherwise we may have to be satisfied with the return of the mural!<br />
[ <a href="http://www.brooklynstreetart.com/theblog/2012/10/14/images-of-the-week-10-14-12/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.brooklynstreetart.com/theblog/2012/10/14/images-of-the-week-10-14-12/</a> ]</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2014 06:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pedestrian safety is definitely a consideration but see One New Change (0.30 on the above video). It is a privately owned public space at roof level and I have not heard of any public safety issues. Landscape architects could be as influential as the other professions, or more influential, if they were bolder about making proposals which appeal to the imagination of &#039;real people&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pedestrian safety is definitely a consideration but see One New Change (0.30 on the above video). It is a privately owned public space at roof level and I have not heard of any public safety issues. Landscape architects could be as influential as the other professions, or more influential, if they were bolder about making proposals which appeal to the imagination of &#8216;real people&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Yuan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yuan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 22:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another point is: Does landscape architect have equal position as town planners? I think the answer is no, because landscape architect always are misunderstood by architects and urban designers...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another point is: Does landscape architect have equal position as town planners? I think the answer is no, because landscape architect always are misunderstood by architects and urban designers&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2014 22:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Make the roof green is a good idea, but if we built public park on the roof of skyscrapers, will people use it? how to manage the heath and safety issue with regard to the use of the POS?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make the roof green is a good idea, but if we built public park on the roof of skyscrapers, will people use it? how to manage the heath and safety issue with regard to the use of the POS?</p>
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