Comments on: Gardens for the soul https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardens-for-the-soul/ Gardenvisit.com Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:36:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.8 By: Christine https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardens-for-the-soul/#comment-1364 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 04:36:30 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2956#comment-1364 Eating at all.

Who eats.

[ http://developmentworks.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/overconsumption-and-what-is-eaten-in-one-week/ ]

And who doesnt.

[ http://www.bread.org/learn/hunger-basics/hunger-facts-international.html ]

The popular idea of changing Western consumption patterns is:

[ http://matadorchange.com/no-impact-week-day-4-food/ ]

I am not sure if this assists with who eats and who doesnt?

]]> By: Benz https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardens-for-the-soul/#comment-1363 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:17:25 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2956#comment-1363 Yes we should because everything we do is connected. Food production has an immense influence on our landscapes, society, the economy, climate, water use, landslides, disease… As landscape architects we are hopefully committed to make the world a better place for people and for the intrinsic character of the world we live in. If this is not the case then perhaps we should think about doing something else.

]]> By: Christine https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardens-for-the-soul/#comment-1362 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:13:16 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2956#comment-1362 Should we begin the discussion with eating at all? [Social sustainability] Eating so as to not harm the environment? [Environmental sustainability] or Eating so as to ensure prosperity to food producers? [Economic sustainability]

]]> By: Tom Turner https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardens-for-the-soul/#comment-1361 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:19:02 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2956#comment-1361 It must depend on whether the question relates to farmed or wild fish. Here is a link to some research on the sustainability aspects of farmed salmon http://www.seafoodsource.com/newsarticledetail.aspx?id=4787

]]> By: Angie Ward https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardens-for-the-soul/#comment-1360 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:32:24 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2956#comment-1360 Does anyone know what the adverse environmental effects are with eating fish as compared with meat?(beef in particular). I suspect they much less detrimental, therefore how about improving water sources? Using natural biological cleansing for both fresh and sea water.

]]> By: Benz https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardens-for-the-soul/#comment-1359 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:03:10 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2956#comment-1359 Interesting answer. I am not sure about the logic, but I like the outcome of more gardens for the soul. Of all the gardens you have been to which ones moved your soul?

]]> By: Tom Turner https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardens-for-the-soul/#comment-1358 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:38:37 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2956#comment-1358 For more quantification of this point see David MacKay http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/sustainable/book/tex/cft.pdf page 90ff
One counter-consideration is that if everyone stopped eating meat then the planet could support a much larger population. And since people would probably breed to take up the opportunity we could end up doubling the world population and cause other resource demands – and have an even greater need of Gardens for the Soul.

]]> By: Benz https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardens-for-the-soul/#comment-1357 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:35:44 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2956#comment-1357 Seeing as though the blog has veered off the topic of ‘gardens’ towards dealing with air pollution and global warming etc. why is it that LA’s will readily acknowledge that we should be at the forefront of doing our bit to combat global warming and other environmental effects, but they are not willing to confront their own destructive impacts by continuing to eat meat, especially beef.

It has been suggested that all the cows create more global warming gases than all the cars. (Believe it or not the methane is not coming from the rear end but from the front end.) – No matter which end, huge amounts of methane and carbon dioxide are being produced so that you can selfishly eat meat. Did you also know that 1/3 of the world’s cereal harvest and 90 per cent of soya is grown for animal feed and we know that some of the tropical rain forests (carbon sinks) are being hacked down to produce meat and soya. Meat production also demands huge amounts of water. According to Waterwise, the not-for-profit group focused on decreasing water consumption in the UK, it takes 17 times as much water to produce a kilogram of beef as it does to grow a kilogram of maize. Put another way, 13 litres are needed to grow one tomato, 200 litres go into a 200ml glass of milk and it takes 2,400 litres of water to produce a 150g hamburger.

So if you as a LA tell me you are concerned about the environment, the developing world and sustainability is at the top of your agenda please forgive me for being highly sceptical.

Please look at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/food_matters/meatethics.shtml
http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/aug97/livestock.hrs.html

]]> By: Christine https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardens-for-the-soul/#comment-1356 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:24:57 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2956#comment-1356 Once again it is impossible to go past California Modern for designing sublimely with green! ie. view the panoramas of the Miller Garden.
[ http://www.tclf.org/icons/web/application.html ]

]]> By: Tom Turner https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardens-for-the-soul/#comment-1355 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:02:02 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2956#comment-1355 Yes, Vitruvius was right! All designs should be useful, beautiful and well made. Green sauce, or green paint, is better than nothing but they are no substitute for green artistry and green craftsmanship.

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