Comments on: Gardening on the dole: workfare, punishment or pleasure? https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardening-on-the-dole-workfare-punishment-or-pleasure/ Gardenvisit.com Fri, 26 Aug 2011 03:27:51 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.8 By: Tom Turner https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardening-on-the-dole-workfare-punishment-or-pleasure/#comment-2950 Fri, 26 Aug 2011 03:27:51 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=5875#comment-2950 In reply to Paul.

I do not know much about the JSA (Job Seeker’s Allowance) but when Ian Duncan Smith etc say that people ‘earn’ more on social security than from a job, doesn’t that mean that they are getting more money/hour from the state than they would from working? If this is correct then it would be a change from ‘paying people for doing nothing’ to ‘paying people for doing something’.

]]> By: Paul https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardening-on-the-dole-workfare-punishment-or-pleasure/#comment-2949 Thu, 25 Aug 2011 22:47:14 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=5875#comment-2949 The other point is that with this scheme, aside from the fact that it’s punishment (I can’t see the Government or their agencies actually being very interested in helping people develop their skills and reaching their full potential) is that the Government would be opting themselves out of their own minimum wage laws.

If they gave wanted to use people on JSA, for instance, they could work them a maximum of just under eleven hours a week. So it would work out to being just over two hours a day. Any more than that, they start breaking their own laws.

If it was genuinely about helping people get into work I don’t see too much of a problem with it but I just think it’ll be used as an instrument to humiliate and exploit already quite poor people by using forced labour as an excuse not to pay people the going rate.

]]> By: Tom Turner https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardening-on-the-dole-workfare-punishment-or-pleasure/#comment-2948 Mon, 08 Nov 2010 05:56:33 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=5875#comment-2948 Ministers spend too much time with red boxes and not enough time growing red tomatoes.

]]> By: jane https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/gardening-on-the-dole-workfare-punishment-or-pleasure/#comment-2947 Mon, 08 Nov 2010 00:44:32 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=5875#comment-2947 funny, isn’t it .. the govenment makes it seem that gardening is punishing work rather than, truthfully, a pleasure ..

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