<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>
	Comments on: Garden archaeology and archaeologists	</title>
	<atom:link href="https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/garden-archaeology-and-archaeologists/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/garden-archaeology-and-archaeologists/</link>
	<description>Gardenvisit.com</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 00:03:12 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>
	hourly	</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>
	1	</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.8</generator>
	<item>
		<title>
		By: Kathryn Gleason		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/garden-archaeology-and-archaeologists/#comment-1959</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathryn Gleason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 00:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2627#comment-1959</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[We are (slowly)organizing an international Society for Garden Archaeology.  We just got it through the Not-for-Profit steps and it now exists as of a few months ago.  The idea was launched by Michel Conan at Dumbarton Oaks back in 2004, together with the idea for A Sourcebook of Garden Archaeology.  This book has had a long history, but Amina-Aicha Malek (CNRS/Paris) took the editing in hand and we expect it to be print this spring by Peter Lang.  We will launch the book and the society with a conference in Paris.  The website listed above is just a place holder for the moment, but we plan to activite along with the Society.  All of this is being done by a group with training in both design and archaeology.  We can&#039;t boast the combination of great archaeology and terrific interpretation that you seek, but we hope to contribute to the growth of a more rigorous approach to the excavation and interpretation of gardens.  Your website has done much to build awareness of garden history!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are (slowly)organizing an international Society for Garden Archaeology.  We just got it through the Not-for-Profit steps and it now exists as of a few months ago.  The idea was launched by Michel Conan at Dumbarton Oaks back in 2004, together with the idea for A Sourcebook of Garden Archaeology.  This book has had a long history, but Amina-Aicha Malek (CNRS/Paris) took the editing in hand and we expect it to be print this spring by Peter Lang.  We will launch the book and the society with a conference in Paris.  The website listed above is just a place holder for the moment, but we plan to activite along with the Society.  All of this is being done by a group with training in both design and archaeology.  We can&#8217;t boast the combination of great archaeology and terrific interpretation that you seek, but we hope to contribute to the growth of a more rigorous approach to the excavation and interpretation of gardens.  Your website has done much to build awareness of garden history!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/garden-archaeology-and-archaeologists/#comment-1958</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 05:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2627#comment-1958</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Sorry - my mistake. The link is now in place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; my mistake. The link is now in place.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: DanDwig		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/garden-archaeology-and-archaeologists/#comment-1957</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DanDwig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 01:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2627#comment-1957</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Please note that the upper photograph is licensed under a Creative Commons attribution license.  Failing to provide attribution on this page is in violation.  Please remove it or provide proper attribution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please note that the upper photograph is licensed under a Creative Commons attribution license.  Failing to provide attribution on this page is in violation.  Please remove it or provide proper attribution.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Christine		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/garden-archaeology-and-archaeologists/#comment-1956</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2627#comment-1956</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[It appears that sacred trees can be categorised according to a typology and that some trees where in fact dedicated/the abode of demons.

In the paper &#039;On the typology and the worship status of sacred trees with a special reference to the Middle East&#039; Amot Dafni states:

&quot;Gupta distinguishes a &quot;tree-god&quot;, whose worship became organized into a definite religion, from a &quot;tree spirit&quot;, whose propitiation degraded the level of sorcery and incarnation. In practice it is impossible to discern, &quot;spirits&quot;, &quot;demons&quot;, and &quot;jinns&quot; (general supernatural agents) as against &quot;goddesses, &quot;gods&quot;, and &quot;the deity&quot; (religiously established worshipped elements). In the Middle East and North Africa, specific trees may be considered the abode of jinns, demons, or spirits, but these supernatural powers are never worshipped as a kind of &quot;god&quot;. No religious ceremonies are associated with or performed near these trees; these are regarded as heathen rites and are strictly prohibited.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that sacred trees can be categorised according to a typology and that some trees where in fact dedicated/the abode of demons.</p>
<p>In the paper &#8216;On the typology and the worship status of sacred trees with a special reference to the Middle East&#8217; Amot Dafni states:</p>
<p>&#8220;Gupta distinguishes a &#8220;tree-god&#8221;, whose worship became organized into a definite religion, from a &#8220;tree spirit&#8221;, whose propitiation degraded the level of sorcery and incarnation. In practice it is impossible to discern, &#8220;spirits&#8221;, &#8220;demons&#8221;, and &#8220;jinns&#8221; (general supernatural agents) as against &#8220;goddesses, &#8220;gods&#8221;, and &#8220;the deity&#8221; (religiously established worshipped elements). In the Middle East and North Africa, specific trees may be considered the abode of jinns, demons, or spirits, but these supernatural powers are never worshipped as a kind of &#8220;god&#8221;. No religious ceremonies are associated with or performed near these trees; these are regarded as heathen rites and are strictly prohibited.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/garden-archaeology-and-archaeologists/#comment-1955</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2627#comment-1955</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gardenvisit.com/history_theory/garden_landscape_design_articles/sacred_gardens/christianity_gardens&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chopping down sacred trees was important to St Martin and other Christians&lt;/a&gt;, because they were regarded as aspects of pagan idolatory.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.gardenvisit.com/history_theory/garden_landscape_design_articles/sacred_gardens/christianity_gardens" rel="nofollow">Chopping down sacred trees was important to St Martin and other Christians</a>, because they were regarded as aspects of pagan idolatory.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Christine		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/garden-archaeology-and-archaeologists/#comment-1954</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2627#comment-1954</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[I am not sure. There seems to be something critically important in the notion of chopping down the trees or not...which I believe is not a concept that we are currently familiar with in present day modern societies. Perhaps you have some ideas about this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure. There seems to be something critically important in the notion of chopping down the trees or not&#8230;which I believe is not a concept that we are currently familiar with in present day modern societies. Perhaps you have some ideas about this?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/garden-archaeology-and-archaeologists/#comment-1953</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 05:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2627#comment-1953</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if this equation is valid:
sacred grove+temple=sanctuary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this equation is valid:<br />
sacred grove+temple=sanctuary.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Christine		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/garden-archaeology-and-archaeologists/#comment-1952</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 01:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2627#comment-1952</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In &#039;Biodiversity Conservation: Problems and Policies&#039; (Perrings 1995) the authors say:

&quot;Sacred groves were once widely protected from Africa to China [Gadgil 1991, Yu 1991]..throughout the Old World. They continued to be so protected even after conversion to Christianity in the tribal state of Mizorum in northeastern India, now being called &#039;safety forest&#039;, while the village woodlot from which regulated harvests are made are called &#039;supply forest&#039; [Malhortra, 1990].&quot; p281

[ http://ces.iisc.ernet.in/hpg/envis/mg/pdfs/mg138.pdf ]

So it would seem, that the notion of sanctuary is linked to the sacred and reserved value of the place/object.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In &#8216;Biodiversity Conservation: Problems and Policies&#8217; (Perrings 1995) the authors say:</p>
<p>&#8220;Sacred groves were once widely protected from Africa to China [Gadgil 1991, Yu 1991]..throughout the Old World. They continued to be so protected even after conversion to Christianity in the tribal state of Mizorum in northeastern India, now being called &#8216;safety forest&#8217;, while the village woodlot from which regulated harvests are made are called &#8216;supply forest&#8217; [Malhortra, 1990].&#8221; p281</p>
<p>[ <a href="http://ces.iisc.ernet.in/hpg/envis/mg/pdfs/mg138.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ces.iisc.ernet.in/hpg/envis/mg/pdfs/mg138.pdf</a> ]</p>
<p>So it would seem, that the notion of sanctuary is linked to the sacred and reserved value of the place/object.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/garden-archaeology-and-archaeologists/#comment-1951</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2627#comment-1951</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the reference. I agree about the meaning of &#039;sanctuary&#039; being pretty definite but (1)think the safety had other, and non-sacred, functions (2) I am less clear about the difference between a sacred grove and a sanctuary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the reference. I agree about the meaning of &#8216;sanctuary&#8217; being pretty definite but (1)think the safety had other, and non-sacred, functions (2) I am less clear about the difference between a sacred grove and a sanctuary.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Christine		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/garden-archaeology-and-archaeologists/#comment-1950</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=2627#comment-1950</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[I suppose the sacred grove at Olympia was the public sanctuary, although some authors seem to refer to the whole site at Olympia as a sanctuary? On Delos it seems that rites of purification, including the removal of dead bodies and prohibitions on births and deaths and neutrality in trade, were important for ensuring it was a suitable as a holy site.

&quot;There&#039;s nothing indefinite about the word &#039;sanctuary.&#039;It means safety. Protection was first offered, unspoken, by the topography of places where sanctuary was found: a hilltop, an island, a cave, a ring of encircling hills. Then came design: a shady grove, strong walls, or a single line of stone markers...

...Use divides sacred outdoor enclosures into public and private spaces. Public sanctuaries were where the oldest forms of worship were held. A community&#039;s celebration of the gods in prayer, procession, and sacrifice was intended to order the rounds of nature. From drought, famine, plagues, war, and other disasters the sanctuary offered the hope of relief, if not relief itself. A sanctuary&#039;s form often mirrored a culture&#039;s concept of the cosmos, and its vision of an afterlife.&quot;

See Mac Giswold &#039;A History of the Sanctuary Garden&#039; published in Design Quarterly, June 22, 1996.

Perhaps the slave trade on Delos was considered to &#039;pollute&#039; the site? There is reference in this document to two Bithynian slaves who were freed in the Delhic sanctuary in the middle of the 2nd century BC.
[ http://www.pontos.dk/publications/books/bss-6-files/bss6_15_avram ]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the sacred grove at Olympia was the public sanctuary, although some authors seem to refer to the whole site at Olympia as a sanctuary? On Delos it seems that rites of purification, including the removal of dead bodies and prohibitions on births and deaths and neutrality in trade, were important for ensuring it was a suitable as a holy site.</p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s nothing indefinite about the word &#8216;sanctuary.&#8217;It means safety. Protection was first offered, unspoken, by the topography of places where sanctuary was found: a hilltop, an island, a cave, a ring of encircling hills. Then came design: a shady grove, strong walls, or a single line of stone markers&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;Use divides sacred outdoor enclosures into public and private spaces. Public sanctuaries were where the oldest forms of worship were held. A community&#8217;s celebration of the gods in prayer, procession, and sacrifice was intended to order the rounds of nature. From drought, famine, plagues, war, and other disasters the sanctuary offered the hope of relief, if not relief itself. A sanctuary&#8217;s form often mirrored a culture&#8217;s concept of the cosmos, and its vision of an afterlife.&#8221;</p>
<p>See Mac Giswold &#8216;A History of the Sanctuary Garden&#8217; published in Design Quarterly, June 22, 1996.</p>
<p>Perhaps the slave trade on Delos was considered to &#8216;pollute&#8217; the site? There is reference in this document to two Bithynian slaves who were freed in the Delhic sanctuary in the middle of the 2nd century BC.<br />
[ <a href="http://www.pontos.dk/publications/books/bss-6-files/bss6_15_avram" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pontos.dk/publications/books/bss-6-files/bss6_15_avram</a> ]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
	</channel>
</rss>

<!--
Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: https://www.boldgrid.com/w3-total-cache/

Page Caching using Disk: Enhanced (Page is feed) 
Minified using Disk

Served from: www.gardenvisit.com @ 2026-05-16 00:24:40 by W3 Total Cache
-->