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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Christine, for the links re street trees. Roadside planting is a fascinating subject - the Mughal emperors planted trees beside the trunk road in North India and the Chinese are spoiling the character of their rural landscapes by planting wide tree belts which block the views from trunk roads.
Re Avenue re-placement, Adrian, here are some examples to think about (1) Geoffrey Jellicoe was asked to advise on the avenue trees beside the Broad Walk in Kensington Gardens. He said that an avenue was a &#039;military idea&#039; and that the trees should be clear-felled and re-planted. This led to a storm of protest and it was not done. (2) the avenues at Hampton Court were damaged in the 1987 storm and were re-planted in the 1990s with a &#039;military&#039; approach (3) the avenue trees in Greenwich Park are being re-planted as the die. Before c1980 Sweet Chestnuts were often replaced with cherry trees (!). Now, thankfully, they are often replaced with Sweet Chestnuts (4) the avenues at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gardenvisit.com/garden/drottningholm_palace&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Drottningholm &lt;/a&gt;were re-planted but some ancient trees were kept for their historic and sentimental value.
One other point: the association of avenues with militarism is not strong. The first avenues, in Mesopotamia and Egypt, were probably sacred. Nor have avenues ever served a military purpose, though Baroque avenues, as in Paris, were symbols of authoritiy and nationalism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Christine, for the links re street trees. Roadside planting is a fascinating subject &#8211; the Mughal emperors planted trees beside the trunk road in North India and the Chinese are spoiling the character of their rural landscapes by planting wide tree belts which block the views from trunk roads.<br />
Re Avenue re-placement, Adrian, here are some examples to think about (1) Geoffrey Jellicoe was asked to advise on the avenue trees beside the Broad Walk in Kensington Gardens. He said that an avenue was a &#8216;military idea&#8217; and that the trees should be clear-felled and re-planted. This led to a storm of protest and it was not done. (2) the avenues at Hampton Court were damaged in the 1987 storm and were re-planted in the 1990s with a &#8216;military&#8217; approach (3) the avenue trees in Greenwich Park are being re-planted as the die. Before c1980 Sweet Chestnuts were often replaced with cherry trees (!). Now, thankfully, they are often replaced with Sweet Chestnuts (4) the avenues at <a href="http://www.gardenvisit.com/garden/drottningholm_palace" rel="nofollow">Drottningholm </a>were re-planted but some ancient trees were kept for their historic and sentimental value.<br />
One other point: the association of avenues with militarism is not strong. The first avenues, in Mesopotamia and Egypt, were probably sacred. Nor have avenues ever served a military purpose, though Baroque avenues, as in Paris, were symbols of authoritiy and nationalism.</p>
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		By: Adrian Clarke		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know of any guidance on how to replace or replant a historical (or any ageing) avenue of trees? Or indeed any examples of where this has taken place successfully.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know of any guidance on how to replace or replant a historical (or any ageing) avenue of trees? Or indeed any examples of where this has taken place successfully.</p>
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		By: Christine		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/does-greenwich-park-have-the-oldest-avenue-of-trees-in-england/#comment-4551</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 03:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like the idea that trees can assist with road design and keeping drivers at safe speeds![ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7946601/Trees-could-be-cheap-alternative-to-speed-cameras.html ]

Do you know of anyone who has done a study of the benefits of different types of tree shapes, sizes and arrangements on road transport?
[ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/7430696/Bringing-avenue-beauty-to-Britain.html ]

Here are a few more examples of avenues some more famous than others.
[ http://trifter.com/practical-travel/worlds-most-spectacular-avenues-of-trees/ ] and [ http://images.travelpod.com/users/vagabonderz/thebighoneymoon.1181740320.04xpalm_lined_avenue.jpg ]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea that trees can assist with road design and keeping drivers at safe speeds![ <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7946601/Trees-could-be-cheap-alternative-to-speed-cameras.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7946601/Trees-could-be-cheap-alternative-to-speed-cameras.html</a> ]</p>
<p>Do you know of anyone who has done a study of the benefits of different types of tree shapes, sizes and arrangements on road transport?<br />
[ <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/7430696/Bringing-avenue-beauty-to-Britain.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/7430696/Bringing-avenue-beauty-to-Britain.html</a> ]</p>
<p>Here are a few more examples of avenues some more famous than others.<br />
[ <a href="http://trifter.com/practical-travel/worlds-most-spectacular-avenues-of-trees/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://trifter.com/practical-travel/worlds-most-spectacular-avenues-of-trees/</a> ] and [ <a href="http://images.travelpod.com/users/vagabonderz/thebighoneymoon.1181740320.04xpalm_lined_avenue.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://images.travelpod.com/users/vagabonderz/thebighoneymoon.1181740320.04xpalm_lined_avenue.jpg</a> ]</p>
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		By: Erika		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erika]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 19:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Would have thought that the Royal Parks would have conservation management plans (or at least management plans that took into account their conservation) and surely the one for Greenwich Park would identify the significance of this avenue. One fears there is and that it isn&#039;t regularly used. If any comfort can be taken from it, at least it isn&#039;t the cafe itself. Or a car park.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would have thought that the Royal Parks would have conservation management plans (or at least management plans that took into account their conservation) and surely the one for Greenwich Park would identify the significance of this avenue. One fears there is and that it isn&#8217;t regularly used. If any comfort can be taken from it, at least it isn&#8217;t the cafe itself. Or a car park.</p>
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