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		By: The snowball effect &#124; Garden Design And Landscape Architecture Blog &#8211; Gardenvisit.com		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-reason-for-planning-cycletubes-in-urban-areas/#comment-1588</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The snowball effect &#124; Garden Design And Landscape Architecture Blog &#8211; Gardenvisit.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 05:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] once the winter is over you will be free of snowball throwing teenagers! Then perhaps, given your recent acquisition of expertise in the art of dodging snowballs through [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] once the winter is over you will be free of snowball throwing teenagers! Then perhaps, given your recent acquisition of expertise in the art of dodging snowballs through [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: DAN		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-reason-for-planning-cycletubes-in-urban-areas/#comment-1587</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DAN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I moved to London 4 years ago now, after 6 months I was struggling because getting around took up so much time and energy (and money!)... but then I cleaned up my old bike that I brought with my paper round money when I was 13...

Navigating my way round town, getting lost and finding places like this has led me to fall in love with London and its various characters through the city.

As much as I have become a cycle advocator - I am not so sure this would have happened if I had been cycling through underground tubes without gaining my bearings and experiences along the way.

A cause as worthy as cycling deserves to be looked at in higher esteem than to be buried below the life of London town. The visibility of a scheme is surely a high factor in its success.

For instance, cycling in Amsterdam is unmissable and the best way to get around there. My parents came up to London from New Zealand over Christmas and were amazed at the number of cyclists on the roads here in London because they SAW them. They would not have seen them if they were underground. They have gone back with that memory.

Re-balancing bikes and cars on the ground-level should come first I believe. If this is too much to ask for then move the cyclists closer to the Gods perhaps and give them a fantastic view as they glide through the city airspace!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I moved to London 4 years ago now, after 6 months I was struggling because getting around took up so much time and energy (and money!)&#8230; but then I cleaned up my old bike that I brought with my paper round money when I was 13&#8230;</p>
<p>Navigating my way round town, getting lost and finding places like this has led me to fall in love with London and its various characters through the city.</p>
<p>As much as I have become a cycle advocator &#8211; I am not so sure this would have happened if I had been cycling through underground tubes without gaining my bearings and experiences along the way.</p>
<p>A cause as worthy as cycling deserves to be looked at in higher esteem than to be buried below the life of London town. The visibility of a scheme is surely a high factor in its success.</p>
<p>For instance, cycling in Amsterdam is unmissable and the best way to get around there. My parents came up to London from New Zealand over Christmas and were amazed at the number of cyclists on the roads here in London because they SAW them. They would not have seen them if they were underground. They have gone back with that memory.</p>
<p>Re-balancing bikes and cars on the ground-level should come first I believe. If this is too much to ask for then move the cyclists closer to the Gods perhaps and give them a fantastic view as they glide through the city airspace!</p>
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		By: Leo Phillips		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-reason-for-planning-cycletubes-in-urban-areas/#comment-1586</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leo Phillips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i guess you can always cycle out of it if you want the experience]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess you can always cycle out of it if you want the experience</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-reason-for-planning-cycletubes-in-urban-areas/#comment-1585</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see the cycle tubes as cheaper, nicer and better than trains - and with the enormous advantage of concluding your journey with a bike for the last mile. And once you have built the tube, THAT IS IT. There would be no running costs and hardly any maintenance cost. Compare this to £1m for a railway carriage and a vast expenditure on staff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the cycle tubes as cheaper, nicer and better than trains &#8211; and with the enormous advantage of concluding your journey with a bike for the last mile. And once you have built the tube, THAT IS IT. There would be no running costs and hardly any maintenance cost. Compare this to £1m for a railway carriage and a vast expenditure on staff.</p>
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		By: Leo Phillips		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-reason-for-planning-cycletubes-in-urban-areas/#comment-1584</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leo Phillips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[is the enclosed cycle route not just a currative measure rather than a prevention of the anti-social behaviour? should we really be stopping the intergration of the social experience that is cycling through the city?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is the enclosed cycle route not just a currative measure rather than a prevention of the anti-social behaviour? should we really be stopping the intergration of the social experience that is cycling through the city?</p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-reason-for-planning-cycletubes-in-urban-areas/#comment-1583</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Dan. I like it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dan. I like it.</p>
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		By: DAN		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DAN]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Morning TOm,

Apologies for the narrators dull tone of voice but perhaps the words and imagery may cheer up some of the cycling blues in this strong winter weather.
- this ditty published in the &#039;Kansas Cycler&#039; in 1895 celebrates the bicycle against its adversaries the church bishops who feel the lack of church goers is down to the dreaded bicycle......

http://www.goldenoldy.org/mp3/LadyBikeGirl.mp3]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning TOm,</p>
<p>Apologies for the narrators dull tone of voice but perhaps the words and imagery may cheer up some of the cycling blues in this strong winter weather.<br />
&#8211; this ditty published in the &#8216;Kansas Cycler&#8217; in 1895 celebrates the bicycle against its adversaries the church bishops who feel the lack of church goers is down to the dreaded bicycle&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.goldenoldy.org/mp3/LadyBikeGirl.mp3" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.goldenoldy.org/mp3/LadyBikeGirl.mp3</a></p>
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		By: Tom Turner		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-reason-for-planning-cycletubes-in-urban-areas/#comment-1581</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Turner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, but if I had been wearing camouflage clothing, instead of being dressed like Santa, they might not have seen me!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but if I had been wearing camouflage clothing, instead of being dressed like Santa, they might not have seen me!</p>
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		By: Leo Phillips		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-reason-for-planning-cycletubes-in-urban-areas/#comment-1580</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leo Phillips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 18:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[this is what the cycle helmet was designed for no? and the reason the high vis vest  was desinged for, no? protection for the easy seen target.

bit like computer gaming on the street,....another call for more activities for the youth generation.

glad you are still around to write this blog tom!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is what the cycle helmet was designed for no? and the reason the high vis vest  was desinged for, no? protection for the easy seen target.</p>
<p>bit like computer gaming on the street,&#8230;.another call for more activities for the youth generation.</p>
<p>glad you are still around to write this blog tom!</p>
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		By: James Clarke		</title>
		<link>https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-reason-for-planning-cycletubes-in-urban-areas/#comment-1579</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Clarke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom - it&#039;s not too bad, high viz jacket and decent lighting helps.  There are also a few miles of pavement next to the road on the busy sections, there are no other users out here so I use them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom &#8211; it&#8217;s not too bad, high viz jacket and decent lighting helps.  There are also a few miles of pavement next to the road on the busy sections, there are no other users out here so I use them.</p>
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