Comments on: Another modernist housing estate in London bites the dust – the Ferrier Estate https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-modernist-housing-estate-in-london-bites-the-dust-the-ferrier-estate/ Gardenvisit.com Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:54:57 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.8 By: John Evelyn’s garden at Sayes Court and the Convoys Wharf Landscape Master Plan | Garden Design And Landscape Architecture Blog – Gardenvisit.com https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-modernist-housing-estate-in-london-bites-the-dust-the-ferrier-estate/#comment-2262 Fri, 04 Nov 2011 06:54:57 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=4689#comment-2262 […] one yearn for the imaginative approach one sees in Dubai. The spatial pattern resembles that of the Ferrier Estate in Kidbrooke, the planting design is what Chris Baines calls ‘a green desert with lollipops’. I am […]

]]> By: Christine https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-modernist-housing-estate-in-london-bites-the-dust-the-ferrier-estate/#comment-2261 Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:19:43 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=4689#comment-2261 Apparently Orchard Road was named for the orchards that formerly lined the road.
[ http://www.letstravelplease.com/Orchard%20Road%20was%20named%20for%20the%20orchards%20that%20formerly%20lined%20the%20road.jpg ]

]]> By: Tom Turner https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-modernist-housing-estate-in-london-bites-the-dust-the-ferrier-estate/#comment-2260 Mon, 28 Jun 2010 04:51:22 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=4689#comment-2260 There are 40m ethnic Chinese living outside China ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Chinese ) and Singapore is a predominantly Chinese city.

]]> By: Christine https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-modernist-housing-estate-in-london-bites-the-dust-the-ferrier-estate/#comment-2259 Mon, 28 Jun 2010 04:41:07 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=4689#comment-2259 Would it be correct to say there are Chinese people living outside geographic China? Would they be Chinese in ethnicity but not nationality, or would they be part of a dispora or empire of Chinese people?

]]> By: Tom Turner https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-modernist-housing-estate-in-london-bites-the-dust-the-ferrier-estate/#comment-2258 Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:31:40 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=4689#comment-2258 I am aware of two axes of variation in China: climatic (particularly from north to south) and ethnic/cultural (particularly from west to east). But there are massive unifying factors (1) the dominance of the Han Chinese (2) the dominance of the Chinese script since Qin times (3) the centralising unity of the Chinese Communist Party (4) an older ideology which has always argued that China is one country with one language, one people and one emperor.

]]> By: Christine https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-modernist-housing-estate-in-london-bites-the-dust-the-ferrier-estate/#comment-2257 Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:25:38 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=4689#comment-2257 Yes. The use of asbestos is a classic example of the dangers of designer’s etc over enthusiasm about ‘miracle’ solutions…

Should we be speaking about the Chinese as a group? Or is it equally valid to assume within the Chinese culture as much variety of approaches to the solution of urban living as there is in the UK, USA, Australia, New Zealand and Canada to list but a few countries to be influenced by British culture.

]]> By: Tom Turner https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-modernist-housing-estate-in-london-bites-the-dust-the-ferrier-estate/#comment-2256 Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:56:36 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=4689#comment-2256 Janet, one of the advantages of ‘towers in space’ is that densities are higher and public transport is more effective. The long-term solution for the Chinese way of life will surely be to convert rural villages into nests of ‘country cottages’/’dachas’/’summer houses’ so that people can spend parts of their lives with good access to services/jobs and other parts of their lives with good access to the ground and to ‘nature’.
Christine, I wish they had appointed you to manage the Ferrier Estate, assuming the asbestos is removable.
Unfortunately, Greenwich Council has been run as a Labour Party fiefdom since 1971 and now suffers from all the problems of a one-party state: inefficiency, lack of imagination, conservatism, cronyism, rank stupidity. Western politicians and parties seem to get tired when they are in office for too long. For some reason this seems to be less of a problem in East Asia. Ppersonally, I admire the Indian system (just vote out whichever party is in power) but I would not describe India as a well-governed country.

]]> By: Christine https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-modernist-housing-estate-in-london-bites-the-dust-the-ferrier-estate/#comment-2255 Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:26:54 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=4689#comment-2255 Having reconfigured and furbished the building, renovated the inner spaces and restored, renewed and reinvigorated landscape elements…I would then call in ‘the team’ to road test the public spaces.
[ http://davidreport.com/blog/200811/my-playground/ ]

]]> By: Christine https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-modernist-housing-estate-in-london-bites-the-dust-the-ferrier-estate/#comment-2254 Sat, 26 Jun 2010 04:53:27 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=4689#comment-2254 If I inherited a 1960s social housing project I would not call in the bulldozer. Nor would I call in the developer. A good architect/interior designer and landscape architect could transform could transform the existing project into a very desirable place to live.

However, the resulting dwellings would not be social housing and would be individually owned and managed by a body corporate structure.

]]> By: Janet https://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/another-modernist-housing-estate-in-london-bites-the-dust-the-ferrier-estate/#comment-2253 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:20:07 +0000 http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/?p=4689#comment-2253 Although some have been done better than others, I’m still concerned about the fundamentals. I’d like to see more analysis of the consequences of the ‘towers in space’ model that is being promoted in the developing world. We are no longer building that way here because of known weaknesses – social, physical, economic – but happy to export it elsewhere. In the post war period we responded in the same way to the same pressures (population growth, the need to modernise etc), but are now pulling those developments down. Is Asia (or are Asians) so different, or are they condemned to take the same journey, aided by us, who should know better?

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