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	<title>Comments on: Sustainable urban design and landscape architecture &#8211; definitions</title>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/2009/03/27/sustainable-urban-design-and-landscape-architecture-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-1381</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trends is Dutch Landscape suggest our desire and need will be to exert increasing control over the landscape and to extend this control to nature considered as a biological process [http://www.ny400.org/event-details.php?eventId=79]. Practically this is occuring at the same time as the predominant philosophical critique is precisely of our often destructive control over the same. Is this an irony? Or a form of inevitable consequence? 

The more out of our control nature seems the more control we seek?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trends is Dutch Landscape suggest our desire and need will be to exert increasing control over the landscape and to extend this control to nature considered as a biological process [http://www.ny400.org/event-details.php?eventId=79]. Practically this is occuring at the same time as the predominant philosophical critique is precisely of our often destructive control over the same. Is this an irony? Or a form of inevitable consequence? </p>
<p>The more out of our control nature seems the more control we seek?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/2009/03/27/sustainable-urban-design-and-landscape-architecture-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Access to green roofs is a big issue for the future. It certainly cannot be general &amp; free, as it is to public parks. It will need careful planning and here are a few examples: 
- some green and brown and blue roofs will be for wildlife only
- public companies may wish to restrict access to employees and guests
- public buildings (eg libraries) may restrict access to users of their other facilities
- shopping malls may treat the space like their their other mall space - and patrol it with security guards etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Access to green roofs is a big issue for the future. It certainly cannot be general &#038; free, as it is to public parks. It will need careful planning and here are a few examples:<br />
- some green and brown and blue roofs will be for wildlife only<br />
- public companies may wish to restrict access to employees and guests<br />
- public buildings (eg libraries) may restrict access to users of their other facilities<br />
- shopping malls may treat the space like their their other mall space &#8211; and patrol it with security guards etc</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/2009/03/27/sustainable-urban-design-and-landscape-architecture-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-1288</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i really like point 6. the way our towns were carved up by ringroads in the 70s shows how much &#039;seviceability and effiency&#039; are the priority for many people. do you think they could be persuaded to take a leisurely stroll in to town, even if it means taking time contemplate before they begin shopping?

although i love the idea of skyparks i worry about their accessibility. i think i&#039;d like to be able to step off the street into a plaza than get to the top of a building before i can relax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i really like point 6. the way our towns were carved up by ringroads in the 70s shows how much &#8216;seviceability and effiency&#8217; are the priority for many people. do you think they could be persuaded to take a leisurely stroll in to town, even if it means taking time contemplate before they begin shopping?</p>
<p>although i love the idea of skyparks i worry about their accessibility. i think i&#8217;d like to be able to step off the street into a plaza than get to the top of a building before i can relax.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/2009/03/27/sustainable-urban-design-and-landscape-architecture-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-1274</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I should have been thinking about excesses and deficits rather than simply more and less?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I should have been thinking about excesses and deficits rather than simply more and less?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/2009/03/27/sustainable-urban-design-and-landscape-architecture-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-1270</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Veblen touched on a basic truth about human nature - and an unfortunate truth for those who think people can be persuaded to &#039;love&#039; sustainability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Veblen touched on a basic truth about human nature &#8211; and an unfortunate truth for those who think people can be persuaded to &#8216;love&#8217; sustainability.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/2009/03/27/sustainable-urban-design-and-landscape-architecture-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-1211</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Veblen argued both that man is agent of his own destiny. 

He believes that he/she strives for &#039;serviceability and efficiency&#039; rather than &#039;futility, waste and incapacity.&#039; 

The comparative aspect, if Veblen is correct, arises from seeking for external rather than internal reference points as to what a &#039;serviceable and efficient&#039; life might be. From this follows the desire for external display;
&quot;visible success becomes an end sought for its own utility as a basis of esteem.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veblen argued both that man is agent of his own destiny. </p>
<p>He believes that he/she strives for &#8216;serviceability and efficiency&#8217; rather than &#8216;futility, waste and incapacity.&#8217; </p>
<p>The comparative aspect, if Veblen is correct, arises from seeking for external rather than internal reference points as to what a &#8216;serviceable and efficient&#8217; life might be. From this follows the desire for external display;<br />
&#8220;visible success becomes an end sought for its own utility as a basis of esteem.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/2009/03/27/sustainable-urban-design-and-landscape-architecture-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-1178</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t know! Most people want more than they have but as Thorstein Veblen argued, there is a strong comparative aspect to how well off people feel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t know! Most people want more than they have but as Thorstein Veblen argued, there is a strong comparative aspect to how well off people feel</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.gardenvisit.com/blog/2009/03/27/sustainable-urban-design-and-landscape-architecture-definitions/comment-page-1/#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two interesting questions to pose are;
1)&#039;How do you know when you have more than you need?&#039; 
2)&#039;How do you know when you have less than you need?&#039;

How do you know when you have reached the point not of equilibrium, but of diminishing returns?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two interesting questions to pose are;<br />
1)&#8217;How do you know when you have more than you need?&#8217;<br />
2)&#8217;How do you know when you have less than you need?&#8217;</p>
<p>How do you know when you have reached the point not of equilibrium, but of diminishing returns?</p>
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